Ask Jeeves Answer This site might be worth studying about the doctrine of Hell and how it developed. I have barely started to read it.

ARE YOU GOING TO HELL? With the advent of the TV preachers, hell has become a very important issue. Under this discussion I will try to present where and when hell came into the Christian faith. Since there is no proof of metaphysical concepts in religion, I can't prove or disapprove hell. All that I can do is present the facts. Ask Jeeves Answer

Poetry By: Luther Butler In Texas the Blue Bonnets are rapidly reaching blossom time so they can help folks celebrate Easter. Luther Butler wrote "TO A BLUE BONNET" one spring when an insecticide accident left him close to death. Enjoy.

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Dear Drug Merchants of the World, In August of 1954, I was a patient at Bethesda Naval Hospital with a neurological problem that partially paralyzed my leg after a diving accident. Without my knowledge, the S.O.B. who was taking care of me, had me sit in a corner an hour a day and drink orange juice and meditate on what trauma I had in my childhood that was causing the problem. I spent four months in a suicide ward trying to find the answer. A Naval doctor, years later, told me LSD took the swelling out of the brain stem and killed the pain so I could walk fairly normal. I went into the Navy after college, and had to drop out of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary because I was without funds and could find no work. Before the treatment, I had completed 32 hours of N.T. Greek and had hopes of teaching. After the LSD, I couldn't remember the Greek alphabet. The Navy discharged me with a C.O.G. and I went through hell trying to finish school. I couldn't find a church because I had the shakes all the time I tried to stand before people. I never established a sleeping pattern because I was constantly searching my psyche. When the Navy discharged me, they gave me the message that if I talked about what happened they would come after me. Let me tell you this, I am 67 years old [at time of writing], and I don't give a damn! I almost went blind after the LSD. My shipmates laughed at me. I was a screaming psychotic, but I have earned two degrees and I have gained some repute as a writer, and I am going to tell my story. The doctor (CIA Agent) who gave me the LSD was on temporary duty at Bethesda, and he told me he had given the same treatment he gave me to soldiers who had combat fatigue in Korea. The poor sons of bitches, I would like to know their story. I still can't remember what the date is. What I understand it was a bunch of Ivy Leaguers who were turned loose with a new toy, and didn't have sense enough to know they were hurting human beings. If I had been killed in the line of duty, I would have given my life willingly for my country that I love dearly. Did the pigs who were conducting the LSD experiments find out one iota of information that helped the human race? By the way, I have had gall stones removed along with my appendix, and I have suffered. I hope you take into account what you did to me before you do it to another human. Note 5/8/2001 This isn't a pretty picture, but it is my gut feeling. When I was finally readmitted to Bethesda in January of 1955 they put me in a locked ward. Aside from turning suicidal I don't think this was necessary. I have the feeling the Navy was trying to cover up a mistake. The doctor who gave me the LSD was called back for a hearing. The second doctor I had testified that the treatment for the paralysis worsened my condition. Some strange things happened in the locked ward. In the women's ward there was a young lady who I washed dishes with. It was pretty obvious one of the doctors was trying to get us interested in each other. After some display of affections on my part she went to her ward and killed herself. I don't know if she was a part of the LSD experiment./ I am not sure if the diving fall caused the paralysis. My records show Gullian Barrie syndrome after an initial diagnosis of polio. Some of the doctors I have seen seem to think it was polio, others MS. I still become unable to walk normally after strenuous exercise./ Before I had to go to the hospital with the paralysis some of the petty officers refused to go to Bethesda for treatment because they loudly complained about the experiments that were being conducted on patients./ When I was placed back on active duty after the hospital I was given less taxing work. They sent me to the Navy Gun Factory to work on a magazine for the Navy Ball. This is ironic in that three months later at Bethesda I was listed as a danger to others and I had just came off duty serving Navy officers' wives as a secretary./ While in the psychiatric ward I did become very suicidal. Whether this was from the trauma of being locked up or from the LSD I don't know./ If anyone cares to know more about my life, under LaPlata County Series there is a novel Homesteaders and Sheepherders and DH, and also I Knew a Man Who had Six Sons. Although I fictionalized the characters there is the same pattern of how I was raised. Without the LSD I could never have written these books because like most people I had sealed my growing up days in separate compartments in my mind. The LSD certainly opened these compartments./ This type of experiment must never be used on Servicemen again. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Luther Butler was born of southern parents in Alamosa, Colorado in 1929. He holds degrees from Eastern New Mexico University, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Tarleton State University. He served in the US Navy and has ranched, worked in a mental hospital, in inner city slums, and was with the Texas Department of Agriculture for 23 years. He is married to Jo Butler and has one son. Email: lbutler@erath.net Website: http://www.erath.net/butler/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Xlibris.Com - Bookstore Home Bookstore Author Display March 18, 2004 Bookstore Home Book Display Author Display Contact Author Search Browse Bookstore FAQs Luther Butler Contact the Author Author Biography Luther Butler was born of southern parents in Alamosa, Colorado in 1929. He holds degrees from Eastern New Mexico University, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Tarleton State University. He served in the US Navy and has ranched, worked in a mental hospital, in inner city slums, and was with the Texas Department of Agriculture for 23 years. He is married to Jo Butler and has one son. Other novels by the author can be found at Luther Butler’s Bookstore http://www.erath.net/butler/aboutlb.htm Books: A Man Named Job and the Navahos AIDS (No Place to Die) Bastard Bucaneer Catfish Charlie Curse of God Death Rode a White Horse (Book One of Two The Deluge) Deluge (Book Two of Two - Death Rode a White Horse) Shark Bait The Apostate Tuck Woman in The Attic Window Home | Site Map | Jobs @ Xlibris | Terms of Service | Privacy | Copyright © 1997-2004 Xlibris

MONTANISM is thought to be related to the Pentecostal and charismatic Movement in modern day Christianity. Faith healing, speaking in tongues, and an emphasis on the near return of Christ are characteristics of both the ancient and more modern movements. Most Pentecostal churches emphasis a literal interpretation of the Bible. Although they emphasis the sin of same sex relationships, they allow women preachers which was forbidden by the Apostle Paul. Tertullian : The MontanistsTertullian : The Montanists>

ORO: Oxford Reference Online: Subjects and titles REFERENCE TO THE BOOK OF REVELATION I searched the Internet to find that others were thinking that the Book of Revelation was not written by the same John who wrote the Gospel of John. By reading The Oxford Companion to the Bible I learned that scholars and theologians have wondered the same thing about Revelation that I am since a very early date. Fundamentalist think that if it's written in the Bible that it's gospel, and we have to believe it. Heretic or not, the writers of the Middle East think nothing of writing something and attaching a prominent person's name to it. If God is said to be the author, the writing is more valuable. I've found things in the Book of Revelation that have helped me in my daily walk. What I object to is Bible thumpers using the Book to predict the future. In the early days after Bush attacked Iraq, the Right Wingers justified the attack by quoting scripture. This is not right, and this line of thinking can create another Hitler. If God is behind an action no matter how wrong it is, it's justified. I'm glad Saddam is gone. I'm not glad that thousands of innocent people were killed and wounded. The fact that United States military personnel were killed and maimedubious battle makes the war far from a justifiable war.

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Google Search: russell o'quinn Rusty O'Quinn was a hell raiser at John Brown University who got religion. I heard him this morning on Adrian Rogers, Love Worth Finding which was an inspiring message so different from Adrian's usual message of Fundamentalist nonsense. THIS IS A COPY OF THE E-MAIL I SENT AFTER THE SERMON. I was a freshman while you were a sophomore, and it was with great pleasure that I heard you on Love Worth Finding this morning. It was a great improvement to the program. While the rest of us at JBU were grounded, you flew and went motoring off campus (was it a racer?) We were told you had special privileges for some reason no one knew. I flew a few times with Mr. Stanfield who was in charge of the dining hall and a Filipino I'd rather not remember. He was dating a white girl who he thought was cheating on him so we flew over to a rodeo. The horse wasn't bucking much until the stupid pilot flew down into the arena to check out the crowd. Things went crazy for awhile. Time has changed your features some, but I recognized you. I had a bout with polio while in the Navy where I ended up as a LSD experiment at Bethesda Navy Hospital Luther Butler http://lutherbutler.tripod.com/

THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST MADE ME THINK Mel Gibson should have spent more time on the teachings of Jesus instead of showing so many pictures of the flogging. Since the Romans used the same torture on so many of its conquered subjects, the trial, flogging of, and the crucifixtion of Christ was not unique. What was unique are the teachings of Christ. Mel could have Jesus doing the Sermon on the Mount, the Beatitudes, and some things like "love your eneny," "he who is without fault, cast the first stone." Things like that are what the world needs today. We have enough Bible thumpers trying to save people instead of trying to teach them to kill their enemies, stone the gays, and that awful hate religion that we're having to listen to on stations like TBN. Somehow I feel that Mel missed the heart of the Gospel just as the electronic preachers and the Bush administration are missing the message of Jesus today. Thanks for the show, Mel, now produce one that shows the love of God. But, how many people would come to hear and watch what Jesus really taught?

'Passion of the Christ' takes in $117.5 million WONDERFUL MOVIE EVEN THOUGH IT STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BIBLE. THANKS, MEL.